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lørdag 5. mai 2012

Operation paperclip and UFOs

Operation paperclip was for many years a well-known "conspiracy theory", that probably many readers of this blog are aware of. After many documents have been released in recent years, and besides, this 600-page report, it is no longer a theory but conspiracy fact.

New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/us/14nazis.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1

However, what is relatively new, and perhaps not so well known, is the extent of paperclip. As the report shows, it is not limited to the recruitment of scientists, but also largely import of Gestapo and SS personnel, as well as various parts of German intelligence. These were among others recruited for positions in the OSS, which later became the CIA.

Here is an article from BBC News  which focuses on how Operation Paperclip also involved import of new technology.


As the report shows, Paperclip consisted not only of scientists, but also of intelligence agents and officers, - recruitment of personnel (nearly 10 000 in number, large and small) and methods.

In addition, - new and advanced technology.

Paperclip can probably be related to a lot of what is discussed on different “conspiracy”-forums, and alternative internet pages. Among other, the program MK-ULTRA was initiated and implemented by the imported Nazis.

Obviously, a dose of Nazi ethics and ideology came along during the importation of technology and personnel ...
.
In the aforementioned article from BBC news:
"Supersonic Rockets, nerve gas, jet aircraft, guided missiles, stealth technology and hardened armor, were just some of the ground breaking technologies Developed in Nazi laboratories, workshops and factories, even as Germany was losing the war."

At the bottom of the article is also mentioned:

«Added to this, the large number of still-secret Paperclip documents has led many people, including Nick Cook, Aerospace Consultant at Jane's Defence Weekly, to speculate that the US may have developed even more advanced Nazi technology, including anti-gravity devices».
Said Nick Cook speculates in his book "the hunt for zero point"
regarding the possibility that recruited Nazi scientists, engineers and technicians may have had freedom, to such a degree, so that they could have continued their research quasi-independently, while the officially was employed and worked for the U.S. military.

Cook speculates whether they could have "reconstructed" themself as a "state within a state" - a "black projects coordination office" within structures that are otherwise under control of the U.S. government and military.

Perhaps it was something like this President Eisenhower had in mind when he warned against the moral and ethical dangers of the military-industrialcomplex's growing influence in American society during his farewell address in 1961?

This is demonstrated from a government document entitled "An evaluation of German Capabilities in 1945" - where foo fighters are known as "phoo bombs":

This technology, and related technology in the form of "circular wing aircraft" (which was under development in Nazi Germany), was probably one of the things one wanted to gain control of, and that may have been developed in U.S. black projects in the postwar years .





onsdag 28. mars 2012

Nazi-UFO evidence? "Flying saucers, a German invention" according to newspaper headlines.

Here is a collection of headlines from German newspapers from the 50s and beyond:




The headlines say:
 
Flying saucer invented in Germany”.

“Flying saucers, a German invention”.

“The first "flying saucer" flew in 1945 in Prague”.

“"Saucers" disclosed”.

“We constructed flying discs”.

“Flying saucers = V7 says German designer”.

“Flying Saucer = German craft”.

“Adolf Hitler's little green men”
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Again, how can this be in the public domain, and then just disappear?



mandag 19. mars 2012

Proof; Foo fighters: German-built weapons of war - first modern UFOs:


Wikipedia on «foo fighters»:

The term foo fighter was used by Allied aircraft pilots in World War II to describe various UFOs or mysterious aerial phenomena seen in the skies over both the European and Pacific Theater of Operations.

Though "foo fighter" initially described a type of UFO reported and named by the U.S. 415th Night Fighter Squadron, the term was also commonly used to mean any UFO sighting from that period.

Formally reported from November 1944 onwards, witnesses often assumed that the foo fighters were secret weapons employed by the enemy, but they remained unidentified post-war and were reported by both Allied and Axis forces. Michael D. Swords writes:
During WWII, the foo fighter experiences of [Allied] pilots were taken very seriously. Accounts of these cases were presented to heavyweight scientists, such as David Griggs, Luis Alvarez and H.P. Robertson. The phenomenon was never explained. Most of the information about the issue has never been released by military intelligence.”

Regarding the last point, new information has come forward: It turns out that the U.S. government has known the truth all along. This is demonstrated in an official "Intelligence Digest" document, dated February 1945 which is made ​​public through FOIA:







The document deals with the German military capacity in 1945, and mentions "Phoo Bombs" as a weapon in the German arsenal.

"Foo Fighters" are in other words known as "Phoo Bombs" inside the intelligence.


It can thus be concluded that the "foo fighters" were German-built weapons of war, and that "foo fighters" represents the first modern UFOs.

This technology, and related technology in the form of "circular wing aircraft" (which can be proven was under development in Nazi Germany), was probably some of the technology one wanted to gain control of - through “operation paperclip” - and which may have been developed in U.S. black projects in the postwar years.


lørdag 17. mars 2012

Nazi-UFOs: "Flying Saucers were Hitler's A-7 weapons:"

An article from the Swedish newspaper "Aftonbladet", 10.10. 1952. The headline reads "Flying Saucers were Hitler's A-7 weapons.



Furthermore, it is stated in the article that German flying saucer-builders have been in the U.S. since 1945. The article includes an interview with Werner von Braun, who among other things says that there was a problem with the fuel in relation to the early saucers, but that they now believe that this can be solved using nuclear power.

This article was published in 1952!

I have, unsuccessfully, tried to find follow-up articles in both Swedish and Norwegian newspapers from the period. Unbelievable that this appeared in the public media, and then just disappeared!

onsdag 14. mars 2012

Book recommendation; "Hitler's flying saucers": Nazi-UFO proof:


Hitler's Flying Saucers: A Guide to German Flying Discs of the Second World War




Stevens turns every stone in his investigation, and provides a very detailed review of the German flying saucer projects during ww2, - from jet-powered 'suction saucers' to potential field propultion saucers.
If you are new to the topic and want a thorough introduction, this is the best place to start.



An amateur video in three parts based on Stevens's book can be watched here;



 

tirsdag 13. mars 2012

Flying saucer-wave 1947; Schulgens collection memorandum, part 2


As mentioned in part 1, it seems that Schulgen is familiar with the Roswell incident, and that his 1947 memorandum is partly based on the Roswell crash and the investigations of the debris.


Schulgen asks to look for signs of unusual production of materials that could contribute to reduce weight on aircrafts:
“Unusual fabrication methods to achieve ecstreme light weight and structural stability particularly in connection with great capacity for fuel storage“.

Farrell shows in his book, Roswell and the Reich (2010), how a number of details in the descriptions of the debris can be traced back to Nazi Germany and the research associated with the German war projects in metallurgy, etc., which aimed to reduce weight of aircrafts - either research and development that indisputably
happened in Nazi Germany, or projects that there is reason to believe were probably happening.


Another statement that very clearly demonstrates that the memorandum is partly based on the Roswell-crash and the investigation of the debris is this:
"Type of material, whether metal, ferrous, non-ferrous, or non-metallic;” and “Composite or sandwich construction utilizing various combinations of metals, plastics, and perhaps balsa wood”.

I-beams of balsawood, balsawood or plastic-like material / other lightweight materials were mentioned by witnesses in the descriptions of the debris!

It is very unlikely that Schulgen would have mentioned balsawood without having read about / been briefed on the investigation of the Roswell debris.

It is also worth noting that Major Marcel mentioned a kind of porous metal in the description of the debris - that one could blow through.

In this regard, Shulgen writes in his memo:
"...boundary layer control method by suction, blowing, or a combination of both” and “Openings either in the leading edge top and bottom surfaces that are employed chiefly to accomplish boundary layer control or for the purpose of reducing the induced drag. Any openings in the leasing edge should be reported and described as to shape, size, etc. This investigation is significant to justify a disc shape configuration for long-range application”.

... And to the conclusion of the document:
“The power plant would likely be an integral part of the aircraft an could possibly not be distinguished as an item separate from the aircraft. If jet propulsjon is used, large air handling capacity, characterized by a large air inlet and large exhaust nozzle, should be evident. The size of entrance and exit areas world be of interest. It is possible that the propulsive jet is governed or influenced for control of the aircraft. The presence of vanes or control surfaces in the exhaust or methods of changing the direction of the objekt should be observed.”

On this basis, it should be clear what the U.S. air force believed they were facing, namely jet-turbine-powered saucer shaped aircraft (built in lightweight materials) which extraordinary maneuverability and performance was based on eliminating the problem of "the boundary layer" and thus reducing air resistance and friction .












W.A. Harbinson, in the book “Project UFO: The Case for Man-Made Flying Saucers (2007)” sheds light on "the boundary layer" and the porous metal Maj. Marcel mentions;

“Further; if such a craft could be built with a ‘porous’ metal that would act like a sponge and remove the need for air intakes altogether, it would result in ‘frictionless airflow’ during flight (…) such a craft would ‘slip through the air in the same way as a piece of wet soap slips through the fingers (…) the speed and manoeuvrability of such a craft would be virtually limitless (…) While the idea of ‘porous’ metal sounds like something from science fiction, it was in fact being developed in Nazi Germany (…) Among the many other advanced experiments being run in the wind tunnel in the Zeppelin works at Friedrichshaften were those concerning the different ‘porous’ metals, or ‘aeropermeable surfaces’ that were being created by the scientists of Göttingen, Aachen and Volkenrode - various compounds of magnesium and aluminium, sinterized and permeated with microscopic holes. It was called Luftschwamm, or ‘aerosponge’.

In other words, major Marcels description of a porous metal in the Roswell debris (which one could blow through) points directly to Nazi Germany.

Furthermore, to build an aircraft of this type would depend on making the hull thicker to compensate for the weakening of the metals caused by a number of microscopic holes, - or, - the metals necessarily had to be produced lighter and stronger - and one would therefore expect that Nazi Germany's research in metallurgy projects would be implemented at this - and that's exactly what several researchers have found.





mandag 12. mars 2012

Flying saucer-wave 1947; Schulgens collection memorandum, part 1


As mentioned in another post, General Schulgens collection of intelligence memorandum is one of three undeniable genuin Roswell-related documents in addition to the FBI document that recently arrived in the media. Schulgens memo deserves its own post.

In October 1947, ie. after the Roswell incident had taken place, General George F. Schulgen wrote a memorandum regarding U.S. Air force views on and knowledge of flying saucers/UFOs. This is enlightening reading, where it is said that flying saucers are
real, and that the crafts are based on German technology developed at the end of the war.



For many years, a fake version of the memo was in circulation. The fake version was virtually the same as the real with the exception of a single sentence that was added (more on this later).


On page 3 of the memo Schulgen states:
4: This strange object, or phenomenon, may be considered, in view of certain observations, as long-range aircraft capable of a high rate of climb, high cruising speed (possibly sub-sonic at all times) and highly maneuverable and capable aircraft of being flown in very tight formation. For the purpose of analyzes and evaluation of the so-called "flying saucer" phenomenon, the object sighted is being assumed to be a manned aircraft, of Russian origin, and based on the perspective thinking and actual accomplishments of the Germans.

In this context it is worth remembering that Colonel Blanchards immediate impression of the debris in Roswell, was that the debris was somthing Sovietish. Similarly Major Marcel, when he inspected the wreck, expressed that he did not know where it came from, but that he did not think it could be a secret U.S. Project. In other words. - There was nothing about the debris that brought the mind into something extraterrestrial.

If we assume, as many ufologist do, that Schulgens memo is partly based on the incident in Roswell (very likely, as we will soon see), the last sentence of paragraph 4 clearly points a finger in the direction of Nazi Germany when it comes to the origin of the UFO phenomenon in general and Roswell in particular.

It is precisely here that the fake version of the memorandum comes in with its addition (highlighted in bold) that changes the meaning of the statement completly:

4: ... the object sighted is being Assumed to be a Manned aircraft, of Russian origin, and based on the perspective thinking and actual accomplishments of the Germans,
it is the considered opinion of some elements that the object may in fact representant an interplanetary craft of some kind.

The person that wrote the fake version obviously does not want that one should consider taking the German angle in a closer look ...

For the record, it must be noted that the overall context of the document, does not give support to an extraterrestrial conclusion at all . On the contrary, the document points its fingers towards Nazi- Germany.





How?

(Based on Joseph P. Farrell analysis in Roswell and the Reich, (2010)):

1: "Absence of sound except for an occasional roar when operating under super performance conditions".

"Roaring sound" gives hints in the direction of jet and / or rocket engines, and thus indicates an earthly technology - which the document in general support.


2. “Extreme maneuverability and apparent ability to almost hover”.

This characteristic suggests, among other things, vertical (or at least almost vertical) take off, which means that a hypothetical base for this type of aircraft would require smaller facilities than bases for conventional aircraft - and thus would not be immediately recognizable by espionage and analysis of aerial photographs .


3: "A plan form approximating that of an oval or disc with a dome shape on the top surface."

This description matches the description of both the Nazi saucers and also the more conventional Horten flying wing design that Sculgen refers to.


4. "The absence of an exhaust trail except in a few instances when it was reprorted to-have a Bluish color, like a diesel exhaust, Which persisted for Approximately one hour. Other reports Indicated a brownish smoke trail That could be the result of a special catalyst or chemical agent for extra power."

This suggests again a kind of jet-driven vessel with a type of "catalyst" to maximize speed. This indicates once again an exotic technology, but not exotic enough to represent something extraterrestrial.

5. "The ability to quickly disappear by high speed or by complete" disintegration" and "the ability to suddenly appear without warning as if from an extremely high altitude.

This is the only point in Sculgens memo that could indicate something "more" than just jet turbines. The ability to "show up" and disappear should be seen as a sign of a more exotic type of field propultion / "anti-gravity". This description corresponds with the characteristics of american and british pilots regarding sightings of "foo fighters" over Germany during the war. Yet, one must note here the general Schulgens attempt to rationalize the extraordinary properties along the conventional lines (disappearence by high speed / sudden appearence as if from an extremely high altitude).


6. "Evasive action ability indicates possibility of being manually operated, or possibly by electronic or remote control devises."

Some ufologist has claimed that U.S. air force had a standing "shoot down" orders when it came to flying saucers, and this observation supports indirectly this.


7. "The greatest activity in the U.S. was hum the last week of June and the first week of July."

During this period the Roswell incident occurred, and Schulgen is probably familiar with the matter through hia "channels" and through public media. The reference to this period may indicate that the motivation for the memo is partly based on the Roswell incident, and that the timing (October) reflects the elapsed time in the investigation of the debris and that the memo also reflects the preliminary conclusions drawn from these investigations.


8. This strange object, or phenomenon, may be Considered, in view of certain observations, as long-range aircraft capable of a high rate of climb, high cruising speed (possibly sub-sonic at all times) and highly maneuverable and capable of being flown in very tight formation. For the purpose of analyzes and evaluation of the so-called "flying saucer" phenomenon, the object sighted is being assumed to be a manned aircraft, of russian origin, and based on the perspective thinking and actual accomplishments of the germans.

Note the statement "assumed to be of Russian origin ...". In other words, the door is open with respect to that it might be another earthly origin - something independent nazi.


9. "There is also the possibility that the Horten brothers' perspective thinking may inspired this type of aircraft - Particularly the 'parabola', which has a crescent plan form. Records show that only a glider version was built of this type of aircraft. "

Here Sculgen turns specific and mention a modification of the most advanced Nazi technology, he knows. In other words. - Schulgens best tip is a kind of modified version of the Horten flying wing.


10. “…where are these scientists now located, and what is their present activity?” And “What is the present acitivity of the Horten brothers, Walter and Riemar?”.

This, again, opens the door to another possibility - that we deal with an independent Nazi organization. Schulgen asks where in the Soviet Union (or in the Eastern bloc countries) these scientists are, but provides for a more general possibility - that they may be located anywhere and do anything for anyone.


11. “Are any efforts being made to develop the Horten ‘Parabola’ or modify this configuration to approximate an oval or disc?”

By asking this question, Schulgen reveals more about his own (and probably others), thoughts about what we are facing. Here he goes beyond the earlier assumption regarding Horten flying wing, and think now in the terms of turbine-powered saucers (With the high rate of climb, high cruising speed, ultra high-altitude capability, the ability to "almost hover" and thereby the assumed capability of vertical or nearly vertical-takeoff and landing by means of exhaust thrust vectoring).


12. “Boundary layer Control method by suction, blowing, or a combination of both” and “Openings either in the leading edge top and bottom surfaces that are employed chiefly to accomplish boundary layer control or for the purpose of reducing the induced drag. Any openings in the leasing edge should be reported and described as to shape, size, etc. This investigation is significant to justify a disc shape configuration for long-range application”.

This statement is explosive, for here Schulgen suspects that the Hortens or "someone else" has found the solution to get rid of "the boundary layer" and thus reduce drag and increase aircraft performance and efficiency significantly.


13. "Type of material, whether metal, ferrous, non-ferrous, or non-metallic," and "Composite or sandwich construction utilizing Various combinations of metals, plastics, and perhaps balsa wood."

Probably a strong indicator that Sculgens collection memorandum is directly related to the Roswell incident - because certain details described by witnesses to the Roswell debris are found in Schulgens listing! Specific, statements about "non-ferrous" metal, plastic and balsa wood!


14. “Unusual fabrication methods to achieve ecstreme light weight and structural stability particularly in connection with great capacity for fuel storage“.

Here Schulgen reveals his (and probably many others) thoughts on why such an unusual design was adopted, namely to reduce weight (and thus reduced the requirement for "thrust" of "lift" through the propultion system)


15. “Provisions for takeoff from ice, snow or water” og “Skid arrangements for either takeoff or landing.

Again an explosive statement, here Schulgen indirectly ask how on earth these things come from. and the answer, as he apparently suspects based on how the question is formulated, is a place with lots of snow, ice and water. Andes, the southern regions of Argentina and Antarctica?


16. “Jet propultion engines including turbo jets, rockets, ramjets, pulse jets, or a combination of all four”; og “Nuclear propultion (atomic energy). Atomic energi engines would probably be unlike any familiar type of engine, altough atomic engines might be employed in combination with any of the above types. Aircraft would be characterized by lack of fuel systems and fuel storage place”.

This statement indicates that the rest of the analysis of the document is correct, namely that general Sculgen thought in lines of conventionally powered saucers. But note that he also outlines a more radical possibility, namely nuclear-powered saucers. This must be viewed in context with his earlier statement regarding construction to reduce weight - because radioactive shielding of that time must necessarily have involved heavy weight, which requires as much reduction of other weight as possible.


17. “The power plant would likely be an integral part of the aircraft and could possibly not be distinguished as an item separate from the aircraft;” og “It is possible that the propulsive jet is governed or influenced for control of the aircraft. The presence of vanes or control surfaces in the exhaust or methods of changing the direction of the object should be observed.”

Again, a confirmation that the rest of the analysis of the document is correct; - because here Schulgen reveals that he not only thinks in terms of Horten flying wing, but more than suggest that the Horten brothers and other scientists may have been involved in something far more radical - the design of saucer-shaped aircrafts with the propultion system itself as the central component of the construction.

Conclusion:
It is important to note that "the commanding officer of the Roswell Army Air Field ', Colonel William" Butch "Blanchard, immediately suspected that the debris did not represent a balloon or similar, but something Sovietish. General Schulgens memorandum provides in this view, a context, and one can from this conclude that Blanchards immediate impression is near the truth, and further that the official Mogul explanation is simply incorrect, and probably an attempt at disinformation from official sources .

Moreover, the document itself not only points in the direction of Nazi technology, but something straightforward Nazi, and this means that the old enemy was alive, organized and well-financed and also "out there somewhere" and in possession of extraordinary technology a decade - if not decades - in front of the Americans and the Russians had on the drawing board at the time.

Sculgen asks "where is the Horten", "what do they do?", "what type of landing gear do the saucers have?" - In other words, where do they come from?

Contextually, it is clear that Schulgen believe they are Russian, but also keeps the door open for a far more frightening possibility, namely the independent nazi - "Nazi International".




søndag 11. mars 2012

UFO-observation of an unusual character


Here's an UFO-observation of an unusual character - from William Lynes, "PentagonAliens": (page 95):

«Recently, a greengrocer acquaintance related to me how, while he and his daughter were
traveling from the Albuquerque airport to their home in Santa Fe one night in the 1980s, they
were followed all the way by a 'cigar-shaped' ship which flew not far above their car. They
got a good look at the bottom, described as looking like a rusty old iron ship's hull, complete with rivets. There were a line of portholes along the bottom—like a dirigible—and he could hear the drone of a diesel engine.»


  • Rusty old iron ships hull, complete with rivets?
  • Line of portholes along the bottom?
  • Drone of a diesel engine?
Doesn't sound very extra terrestrial to me.

We are being “told” that:

1: UFOs do not exist.

2: If UFOs exist, they are extraterrestrial.

The most rational option, namely that ...

3: All UFOs are real, man-made flying machines, invented and flown by humans for almost 70 years.

... are barely considered.



Some thoughts about the ufo-phenomenon

This blog is intended to deal with the UFO phenomenon in general, and Hessdalen particularly. In my opinion, Hessdalen represents the global UFO phenomenon in a miniature version. Thus, by studying Hessdalen, one can learn about the global UFO phenomenon.
Here are some thoughts on the origin of the UFO phenomenon as it appears in my view:

During World War Allied pilots and crew observed what were called "foo fighters"-yet it is the big wave in 1947 which is considered as the start of the modern UFO phenomenon.
A U.S. intelligencereportfrom 1945 states that foo fighters / phoo bombs were German weapons.
But what about the flying saucer wave of 1947 and the UFO phenomenon in general since the Second World War?
Officially UFOs are:

1: Non-existent (the case of hallucinations, misinterpretations, bluff, etc.)
2: If the UFO still exists it is something extra terrestrial.


Both views are fundamentally wrong in my opinion.

Unknown crafts with saucer, cigar, triangle, egg and bullet form, have been observed over the globe since 47. They are reported to be solid, physical objects with metallic hulls, etc.
As I see it, there is no reason to believe that this represents something alien.

Flying saucers looks like circular planes, cigar-shaped UFOs are similar to planes without wings (or flying U-boats), etc. In other words, It sounds to be an earthly technology. For the technology to a possible ET race (potentially millions of years ahead in development - and therefore far more advanced), I would expect something far more exotic than a vessel that looks like my car.

One can also conclude that over the years it has been an UFO "evolution" in which the vessels appear to have become more and more advanced. If one goes back to the earliest reports, as they appear in the many books written about the UFO-wave in 1947, we see that the UFOs are here in many cases described to let out exhaust / black smoke. Many reports also describe sounds from the UFO that resembled jet / rocket engines and there are also examples of reports where “motor sound” were heard. Speeds and maneuverability is not as impressing as described in reports of recent date.
In sum, it appears that the reports from 47 describes a new and advanced technology, but not exotic enough to represent something extra terrestrial.
So where can one look to find a potential earthly source?


U.S. Air Force investigated the phenomenon in 1947, and General Schulgen pointing out Nazi Germany and German technology developed during the war as a likely origin.


"To the purpose of analyzes and evaluation of the so-called "flying saucer" phenomenon, the object sighted is being Assumed to be a Manned aircraft, of Russian origin, and based on the perspective thinking and actual accomplishments of the Germans. "
Note the statement "Assumed to be of Russian origin ...". In other words, Schulgen may suspect another earthly origin than Soviet – namely something independent Nazi.

A CIA document (available through the Freedom of Information Act) dated 18 August, 1952 mentions that the Germans built flying saucers as early as 1941:

"Flying Saucers Have Been known to be an actuality since the Possibility of Their construction was proven in plans drawn up by German engineers toward the end of World War II."
Another CIA document dated May 27, 1954 identifies three different designs.
All these projects were jet-turbine-powered saucer shaped aircraft - as described in General Schulgens collection of intelligence memo from October 1947.

From the Schulgen-memo we have the following statement:

"Boundary layer Control method by suction, blowing, or a combination of both” og “Openings either in the leading edge top and bottom surfaces that are employed chiefly to accomplish boundary layer control or for the purpose of reducing the induced drag. "

Schulgen and his agents suspects in other words, that "someone" have found the solution to getting rid of the problem of "the boundary layer" and thus
reducing air resistance / friction and increase the aircraft's performance and efficiency significantly.

From Henry Stevens' book, "Hitler's Flying Saucers":
"Full-scale suction wing aircraft were built for purpose of testing this concept. These were the Junkers" Absaugeflugzeug "(suction aircraft) AF-l and the Fieseler" Absaugestorch "(suction-stork) AF-2".

"Concurrent with these experiments, work was being done into the feasibility of circular wings. This work also began in the 1930s with the basic ideas being credited to Professor Ludwig Prandtl. Early scientific papers on circular winged aircraft were written beginning in 1936 by Wilhelm Kinner and in 1938 by M. Hansen. Both of these scientists worked at the Aerodynamic Research Facility at Goettingen. By 1941 Dr. Alexander Lippisch was also engaged in experimentation on circular wings at the Messerschmitt firm. His design, designated J1253, was tested at the wind-tunnel at Goettingen. Dr. Lippisch was visited by Dr Giuseppe Belluzzo while at Messerschmitt in Augsburg and Lippisch worked together with Dr. F. Ringlib on a "Drehfluegel" or"rotating wing" which was tested at Peenemuende. As with suction wings, a body of scientific literature from those times documents this early circular-wing experimentation".

Here is atranslated NASAdocument,
originally written by the aforementioned Wilhelm Kinner in 1936, "On wings of circular design" ("Über tragflügel mit kreisförmigen basic Sketch").
As Henry Stevens says:

"The genius of the German designers was to combine the ideas of suction and circular wings into a single aircraft. Housing complete aircraft within its wing would eliminate the fuselage and so eliminate an unnecessary, drag-causing structure."

Finally, I want to mention another German engineer Heinrich Fleissner, who took out U.S. patent on his design for a suction saucer - based on the projects he was involved in at Peenemunde during the war:



In an article from 1980 in the German magazine Neue Presse Fleissner describes his work at Peenemunde:
"Fleissner was an engineer, designer and advisor to what he calls a "Flugscheibe" project based at Peenemuende during the war. It is interesting to note that Fliessner's area of expertise, fluidics, is exactly the specialty involved in investigating problems with boundary layer flow. Fleissner reports that the saucer with which he was involved would have been capable of speeds up to 3,000 kilometers per hour within the earth's atmosphere and up to 10,000 kilometers outside the earth's atmosphere. He states that the brains of the developmental people were found in Peenemuende under the tightest of secrecy."

In his memorandum, it is clear what Schulgen believed we were facing in 1947: namely, jet-turbine-powered saucer shaped aircraft (built in lightweight materials) which extraordinary maneuverability and performance were based on eliminating the problem of "the boundary layer" and thus reduceing air resistance and friction .


As mentioned previously, General Schulgen and U.S. Air Force opened for a possible independent Nazi origin to the UFO phenomenon. When you take the technology that was under development into account, and also know that the Nazis as early as in 1943 planned to go underground after the war, this forms a frightening picture.