Nazi UFO:

More evidence of Nazi UFO?

This picture is something I came across in a discussion forum. Unfortunately, I have no information about where the image comes from, or in what context it was originally published.

Nazi rocket program; picture of unknown origin.

However, it seems to display a table that describes the Nazi rocket program during World War II, with detailed information on each missile type.

In the rightmost column, Fliegende Scheibe is described, which translated from German into English represents flying saucers.

Based on the description (diameter of 42 meters, test flight in 1941), it appears that it is the "Habermohl-saucer" we are talking about.

Is the image real, or are we talking about a hoax?

The details in the descriptions of the other rocket-types appear to be genuine as far as I can see when I check with wikipedia.

But beyond this it is difficult to conclude.

I will be grateful for any comments that may contribute to clarification.

Nazi UFO/The Bell, Roswell and MJ-12: Summary, conclusion, and a kind of proof(?):

Here is a preliminary attempt at a summary / conclusion of my two previous articles about The Bell:

Part 2:

Part 1:

"The Bell" was probably not a "UFO", but perhaps an experiment in cutting-edge physics?

It is from several sources claimed that "The Bell" project had as one of its aims to examine issues concerning gravity, and potentially develop fieldpropulsion / "anti-gravity" as a result of this.

The question then becomes whether any results of "The Bell" project eventually was used in connection with propulsion of other SS-initiated "black projects" - such as saucer-shaped aircrafts (which was originally intended for conventional jet / rocket propulsion)?

Illustration from an article by Rob Arndt; http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/DIE%20GLOCKE.htm

The reasoning is roughly as follows:

- The person or persons who leaked / hoaxed (?) "The white hot intelligence estimate" in 1998, may (most likely) not have obtained information concerning "The Bell" from Witkowski, since the information was available only from (at that time) Witkowskis unknown articles in Polish (the translated version of "Prawda o Wunderwaffe" - "The truth about the wunderwaffe" came first in 2003).

- Witkowski wrote about "The Bell" long before 1998, and could obviously not have picked info about "The Bell-fuel" from the later MJ-12 document.

- We then have two completely independent sources on an exotic form of propulsion (which may sound like a form of fieldpropulsion / "anti-gravity")

- The fact that Witkowski mentions beryllium oxides and thorium as elements in detail in "IRR xerum 525" in his early articles in Polish, confirms that the MJ-12 document that later mentions the same elements, is not fake, but real.

- That the MJ-12 document (regardless of Wikowski) mentions beryllium and thorium as ingredients in the "fuel" substantiates that Witkowski was right,, and that "The Bell" experiments actually took place.

- If the details in the MJ-12 document (that matches Witkowski) confirms that the technical descriptions in the document are true, then this is evidence that the Roswell incident actually took place.

- The technical descriptions in "The White Hot Intelligence Estimate" suggests that what crashed near Roswell was an aircraft of German origin:
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The technical descriptions is about unusual and sophisticated, but earthly technology: Ignition Coil, magnets, electrodes, engine, exhaust pipes, plastic, copper wire, battery and gearbox etc.
This, as mentioned in the previous Posts.

Extraordinary UFO sighting; Hessdalen and UFOs; - Aliens, or secret military experiments?

One of the most extraordinary UFO-sightings in Hessdalen ever, was done by Leif Havik, - who is the author of the book I several times have referred to as well; “The UFO phenomenon”, (1987). Havik was also coordinator of the first two field investigations carried out by Project Hessdalen in 1984 and 1985. Considering Haviks position (leadership within Project Hessdalen / author of one out of two books about Hessdalen), it is, in my opinion, an extra reason to attribute this very special sighting weight:
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“Friday 23.August, Leif Havik took a trip to Hessdalen. It was early afternoon when he turned into the road that leads to Øyungen, by Vårhus. Leif parked his car below Fjellbekkhøgda. Leif had packed a backpack for the trip, and went up along the mountain side. On the way up, he met a sport fisherman who was on his way down the mountain. After a brief pause at the top, Leif continued further towards Måstjønnskarven. He stopped at a huge rock on the plateau. Leif sat down on the moss, and used the huge stones as his backrest. He looked at the fantastic play of colors in the reflections from the countless small lakes across the tide. There were some little clouds that drifted by. It was strangely quiet, not a sound or a small puff where he sat.

Above you can see the drawing that Leif Havik made.

While Leif sat there, he suddenly got a feeling of being watched., and he turned around to see if there was anything nearby. There was nothing to see, so he threw it away by thinking that it probably was just his imagination.

Just then, he saw a shiny silver object that slowly slipped out of an invisible portal in the sky. The distance was hard to calculate, but it was "close" enough so that he could see the details of the hull. It looked like a fuselage without wings, and it was clearly composed of plates. Although it shined in silver, there were parts that were like darkened glass, especially in the front. The entire hull gradually came into view, and it stopped.

View from Fjellbekkhøgda.

Throughout this phase, Leif felt a tingling sensation in his arms and legs, and he was "heavy" in his head. It was an uncomfortable feeling, as if "something" deprived of his will. His brain told him to flee from there, but something "locked" him to the moss where he sat. Leif felt an intense, high-pitched, whistling noise inside his head, and it was an uncomfortable pressure in the forehead.

Leif explains further: "A weak. Reflective. flickering light moved along the side of the hull. There was something undefinable woolly about the light, - or rather like illuminated smoke. It suddenly felt as if his head would burst, and it was an indescribable pain. Then he did not really know what happened. The next thing he remembered was that he sat and looked beyond the rocky landscape, and he was surprised that it had been dark so fast. Now, there was no pain in his head, and the wingless fuselage was gone. He had to sort out his mind, and leaned firmly against a rock and rolled a cigarette. Then, it was as if a tape recorder started to run, and an authoritative and clear voice began to speak and rattled off one lesson after another. After a while, the "tape recorder" stopped. He suddenly felt that he wanted to go back home. The speed was high on the way back to the car. "

Map which shows Haviks position.

My comment:

I particularly note Haviks description of the hull, "as a fuselage, without wings” and the sentence; “it was clearly composed of plates." The description "fuselage without wings" is often used in conjunction with Hessdalen. This indicates (of course) that the vessel does not carry wings, and what keeps the vessel in the air,  most probably is a form of field propulsion / “anti-gravity”. However, it is my opinion that the fuselage shape indicates a human origin, and not something extraterrestrial/alien. If the craft was alien, I would have expected something far more exotic than "a fuselage without wings." In my view, "fuselage without wings-shape" indicates that the (human) builders of the vessel have based the craft on a plane (or a U-boat?) and simply dropped the wings - because they are unnecessary (due to exotic propulsion).

My next point is the words "clearly composed of plates".  Again, I think this indicates a man-made vessel, and not something alien. Most of our vessels are composed of plates, but is it likely that extraterrestrials/aliens - far ahead in development - would stagnate at the same developmental stage regarding development of hulls? Isn't it more likely that they would have developed hulls molded in a single piece of metal? A vessel "clearly composed of plates" would not be very suitable for interstelleare traveling in (or close to) the speed of light. (It would of course be torn apart.)

Some would argue that the crafts that visits earth (seen in Hessdalen), were brought here via a "mother ship, - but if the "mother ship" is built on the basis of requirements for interstellar travel, why does not the hulls of the “probes” possess the same qualities?

When it comes to Haviks psychological reactions (voices inside his head, etc.), many will likely connect this to extraterrestrials.

In my opinion, these reactions may rather be due to either (natural) electromagnetic activity - that we know occurs in the Hessdalen area (due to geo-physiological conditions?) - or a form of artificial electromagnetic interference. The first implies that it all takes place in Havik's head because of natural conditions that excists in the valley. The second option, however, indicates artificial influence - and thus a form of mind control - and that Hessdalen may be the site of greater things - testing of new technology (secret NATO-projects?) etc.

The last option will be explained in upcoming articles.

The Roswell-crash, majestic 12 and nazi-UFOs (the nazi bell?):

When I nag about the Majestic-12 documents - even though they are questionable documents that have been "leaked", and we do not know the source - it is because I share Joseph P.Farrell's view p. 285

that they possess:
1: An authentic level, where the technical descriptions of the Roswell wreckage are summarized. (Here it is a gap between the description of the technology and what one would expect from the descriptions of a technology of extraterrestrial origin. Conversely, there exists detailed parallels between the technology as it is described, and various "black projects" from Nazi Germany).

2: A level of disinformation where the emerging "ET explanation" forms a deep "cover layer" of disinfo behind the official explanation about a crashed weather / Project Mogul balloon.

In this context it is worth mentioning another Majestic 12 document, «The 16. July 1947 Air Accident Report by General Nathan Twining toHeadquarters».

The MJ-12 document I wrote about in my previous post, was from September 1947, while this one is from July, and then immediately after the crashed occurred:

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1. As ordered by Presidential directive, dated 9 July 1947, apreliminary investigation of a recovered "Flying Disc" and remains of a possible second disc, was conducted by the senior staff of this command. The data furnished in this report was provided by the engineering staff personenel of T-2 and aircraft laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. Additional data was supplied by the scientific personnel of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, CIT and the Army Air Forces Scientific Advisory Group, headed by Dr. Theodore von Karman. Further analysis was conducted by personnel from Research and Development.

2. It is the collective view of this investigative body, that the aircraft recovered by the Army and Air Force units near Victorio Peak and Socorro, New Mexico, are not of US manufacture for the following reasons:

a. The circular disc-shaped "planform" design does not resemble any design currently under development by thiscommand nor of any Navy project.

b. The lack of any external propulsion system, power plant, intake, exhaust either for propeller or jet propulsion, warrants this view.

c. The inability of the German scientists from Fort Bliss and White Sands Proving Ground to make a positive identification of a secret German V weapon out of these discs. Though thepossibility that the Russians have managed to develop such a craft, remains. The lack of any markings, ID numbers orinstructions in Cyrillic, has placed serious doubt in the minds of many, that the objects recovered are not of Russian manufacture either.

d. Upon examination of the interior of the craft, a compartment exhibiting a possible atomic engine was discovered. At least this is the opinion of Dr. Oppenheimer (sic) and Dr. vonKarman. A possibility exists that part of the craft itself comprises the propulsion system, thus allowing the reactor to function as a heat exchanger and permitting the storage of energy into a substance for later use. This may allow the converting of mass into energy, unlike the release of energy of our atomic bombs. The description of the power room is as follows:

(1) A doughnut shaped tube approximately thirty-five feet in diameter, made of what appears to be a plastic material, surrounding a central core (see sketch in Tab 1) This tube was translucent, approximately one inch this (sic),The tube appeared to be filled with a large rod centered inside the tube, was wrapped in a coil of what appears to be copper material, ran through the circumference of the tube. This may be the reactor control mechanism or a storage battery. There were no moving parts decernable (sic) within the power room nor in MISSING LINE HERE.

(2) This activation of a electrical (sic) potential is believed to be the primary power to the reactor, though it is only a theory at present. Just how a heavy water reactor functions in this environment is unknown.

(3) Underneath the power plant, was discovered a ballturret, approximately ten feet in diameter. This turret was encompassed by a series of gears that has a unusual (sic) ratio not known by any of our engineers. On the underside of the turret were four circular cavities, coated with some smooth material not identified. These cavities are symetrical (sic) but seem to be movable. Just how is not known. The movement of the turret coincides with the dome-shaped copula compartment above the power room. It is believed that the main prorpulsion system is a Modeless turbine, similar to current development now underway at AMC and the Mogul Project. A possible theory was devised by Dr. August Steinhof, Dr. Wernher von Braun (sic) and Dr. Theodore von Karman as the craft moves through the air, it somehow draws the oxygen from the atomsphere and by a (sic, et passim) induction process, generates a atomic fusion reaction (see TAB 2). The air outside the craft would thus be ionized, thus propelling the craft forward. Coupled with the circular air foil for lift, the craft would presumably have an unlimited range and air speed This may account for the reported absence of any noise and the apparent blue flame often associated with rapid acceleration.

(4) On the Deck of the power room there are what resembles typewriter keys, possibly reactor/powerplant controls. There were no conventional electronics not (sic) wiring to be seen connecting these controls to the propulsion turret.

e. There is a flight deck located inside the copula section. It is round and domed at the top. The absence of canopy, observation windows/blisters, or any optical projection, lends support to the opinion that this craft is either guided by remote viewing or is remotely controlled.

(1) A semi-circular photo-tube array (possibly television).

(2) Crew compartments were hermetically sealed via a solidification process.

(3) No weld marks, rivets or soldered joints.

(4) Craft components appear to be molded and pressed into perfect fit.

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Some key points:

If the craft was of extraterrestrial origin - full of ultra-advanced ET technology - why were the three German (paperclip) rocket scientists called in to inspect the wreck? Thinking of U.S. secret projects' potential gain, - it would probably have been of interest to shield any ET technology from the Germans (and their possible contacts) two years after the war ended? So in other words, when the Germans were called in to inspect the remainings of the craft ( possible identification) it may be taken as an indication that the technology seemed man-made and of German origin?

Although the Germans were unable to identify the technology as something associated with German V-weapons, they were able to propose a rather radical form of propultion mechanism for the craft, and consequently they must at least have had some suspicions about its origin?

Nearly all technological descriptions in the document has an "man-made" character, a plastic tube, ca. 2.5 cm. in diameter, filled with a substance that seems to be ... water, a coil ... copper material ...

Furthermore, there is talk of a heavy water reactor, and that the German paperclip scientists already are thinking of a nuclear fusion reactor rather than a fission reactor. Thinking of the equipment described, it seems a process something like cold fusion(!).

Something resembling typewriter keys are mentioned in connection with the description of a possible "power plant" control, and further a "ball turret" componenet is mentioned, accompanied by a series of gears (!) With an "unusual ratio", unknown to the Americans .

All in all, there is very little in "the air accident report" document that suggests something extraterrestrial, but rather very much pointing in the direction of technology that the Nazis tried to perfect during the war.

As mentioned previously, - General Sculgen and his intelligence agents speculated about the possibility of nuclear propulsion, - in other words nuclear-powered UFOs in 1947.

The paperclip experts, Steinhof, Von Braun and Karman, describes a type of propulsion where oxygen from the atmosphere is drawn into the craft when it moves through the air, and also a process in which a nuclear fusion reaction is formed, so that the air outside the craft is ionized and thus drives the vessel forward.

As previously mentioned, it is my opinion that the term nuclear-propulsion is similar to field propulsion (“anti-gravity”) when the technology is based on a radioactive isotope to provoke these field effects.

In conclusion;

It may appear that both the official government documents - which of course are undoubtedly authentic, (represented here by Schulgens collection of intelligence memorandum) - and also the more dubious Majestic 12 documents - which probably contains a bit of authentic information mixed with a portion disinfo - largely supports the claim that the UFO phenomenon is of German origin.

If any independent Nazi "black project research team(s)" survived the war, and if the Roswell crash provide adequate evidence that such was the case, one can hardly imagine the shock waves in the Pentagon two years after the war ended ...

As Nick Cook puts it in his book "The Hunt for Zero Point": "All the better then to cloak the sensational discovery in a multi-layered disinformation operation, to conseal it behind the ET Myth".

News from Hessdalen; UFO-sightings 2012:

Happy announcement number 1:
The live-camera in the Hessdalen automatic station is up and running again. Here you can follow what happens in the "valley of UFOs" from second to second. The live-camera has been down since December, but is finally back.

Nice view: Hessdalen live-camera.

The camera is very light sensitive, and mounted in the direction of west. In the hours before sunset, , the screen goes black, and it is impossible to see anything. In winter, it is dark at night in Norway, and one is therefore dependent on the moon for it to be bright enough to make observations.

However, it is possible to observe the phenomena live here. I have been lucky enough to see the phenomena repeatedly using this camera.

For example, do like me, have a small window open while you work on something else on your computer, - or download a screen recording program that can record while you do something else, not at home, etc.

Hessdalen automatic station.

Happy announcement number 2:
The Project Hessdalen page where observation reports are published, is updated. So far there are four phenomena reported in 2012:

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Date: 01.03.2012 Time: 08:30 P.M Place: Lake Hersjøen, Hessdalen Ole Jacob was driving a snowmobile on lake Hersjøen, together with his son Jacob (11 years) and his niece Kristin (13 years). They saw a green light coming from the east, moving down with an angle, in front of, and just south of mount Brattbekken, i n the west. It disappeared when it was in the hillside. It disappeared when it was below the horizon. The weather was calm, a few clouds and the themperature was - 2°C. Date: 25.02.2012 Time: at about 07:20 P.M Place: Fjellheim parking, Hessdalen The observers were at the parking place, when they saw a light in direction northeast. The light was seen two times during a 5 minutes periode, and it lasted about 10 seconds each time. During the first observation, the light split in two. Date: 19.02.2012 Time: between 01:00 and 02:00 A.M Place: Fjellheim parking, Hessdalen The observers were at the parking place, in the middle of the night, due to recording of a film. They saw a light phenomenon in direction west/northwest, just above mount Skarvan. They saw the light three times, each with a duration of about 5 to 10 seconds. It was above the horizon. Date: 18.02.2012 Time:11:40 P.M Place: Grøtådalen, Hessdalen Anngerd was sitting on a sledge behind a snowmobile, when they were driving back          home from Grøtådalen. She saw a light in direction north/northwest. Estimated distance was to the light was beneath 1000m, and it was underneath the horizon. The light looked like sparks/ lines of light / rocket, which was standing still, just above the ground. She saw the light just some seconds, because the snowmobile was driving into the farm, and something did block the line of sight. She moved to a place on her farm, where she could see it, but then it was gone. --- Source: Project Hessdalen home page.

Roswell, MJ-12, anti-gravity and "the (nazi) Bell":

Most reports referred to in books that deal with the 1947 flying saucer/UFO-wave describes crafts that indicate advanced jet / rocket technology. However, there are examples of other, seemingly more advanced things. Some reports describe extreme speeds, jerky movements, angle turns (non-aerodynamic maneuvers) climbing as in "stairs", buzzing sound (hints of high voltage) craft enveloped in an intense flare, etc.These reports are characterized by a type of field propulsion / "anti-gravity" is involved.

Again Schulgens memorandum must be mentioned:

“Nuclear propulsion (atomic energy): Atomic energy engines would probably be unlike any familiar type of engine, altough atomic engines might be employed in combination with any of the above types".

The term "nuclear propulsion" is vague, however. It can mean - and in some cases, probably, it is likely that it means - any field-propulsion (or "anti-gravity") technology that is based on some form of radioactive isotope to provoke these field effects.

My tip is that the UFO phenomenon in 1947 was about a majority of jet-turbine-powered saucer shaped aircrafts (built in lightweight materials) which extraordinary maneuverability and performance were based on eliminating the problem of "the boundary layer" and thus reduce air resistance and friction. In parallel with these existed a set of (probably unstable / unreliable) nuclear-powered vessels, one of which crashed near Roswell.

The Germans worked to achieve energy independence in the third Reich, particularly interesting was alternative "free energy" sources. According to field propulsion and discussions of UFOs, Hans Coler and Karl Schappeler are often mentioned, regarding projects including coils, magnets and rotation.

Hans Colers "Magnetstromapparat".

A MJ-12 document may shed further light on «coils and magnets», - and potential nuclear power to provoke field propulsion («anti-gravity»).

Most of what is said and written about the so-called Majestic 12 documents (MJ-12) is based on the notion that they are either 100% true or 100% hoax. It has been little focus about the very nature of them and what they actually say. My understanding is that some of the documents may contain some truth mixed with some disinfo. In this context, in my opinion, "The White Hot Intelligence Estimate" and especially the second part of the document "technical evaluation (preliminary)" is particularly interesting.The following content is taken directly from the document (quoted from Joseph P. Farrell, Reich of the black sun (2001) and Roswell and the reich (2010):

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PART II TECHNICAL EVALUATION (PRELIMINARY)
ULAT-1

1. Upon close examination of the exterior surfaces of the craft's fuselage, metallurgists found the skin to be of a ferrous metal white in color. The metal exhibits all the characteristics of high-grade steel. It was determined that the steel was cold-formed and heat-treated. Tensile strength was estimated in excess of 150,000 pounds per square inch. Shear tests give the metal a durability rating about 175,000 pounds per square inch, making the fuselage extremely strong and heat resistant.
2. Static and pressure flow simulaions were impressive. The low
profile ratio of 6-to-l gives the aerodyne a great advantage in
overcoming the restrictions of the boundary layer effect in high
performance operatons.

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8. The power plant (seeverely damaged) ????????????????
neutronic negine. ????????????????? Detected. Heavy water and
deuterium (light hydrogen) elements appear to be the primary ignitor. A series of coils and heavy magnets connected to the neutronic engine via an oddly arranged group of electrodes (metal not yet identified) appears to be the motive force. One small motor was examined. It is encased in a pure aluminum capsule directly underneath the main engine compartment. There is a small exhaust aperture that has what can by (sic) only described as an helicoid mechanism.

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10: The follwing elements were analyzed and found to exist in the
small neutronic power plant that was found inside ULAT-1:

a. UF6 in metallic form;
b. Hydrogen-fluoride gas;
c. Water and uranium tetrafluoride;
d. Powdered magnesium and potassium chlorate;
e. Metal similar to lead with a chocolate brown color;
f. U-235 in metallic form;
g. Plastic like material similar to NE 102;
h. Beryllium,
i. Pure aluminum;
h. Thorium isotope material;
j. plutonium powder.

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Point 1 and 2 is an echo from Schulgens memo, and emphasizes which was written regarding Nazi research into new forms of production of metals, as well as research on "boundary layer control".

Section 8 describes a very unconventional source of energy - composed of conventional elements but in an unusual combination: A "neutronic power plant" apparently "powered" by a bizarre mix of everything from "powdered magnesium and potassium chlorate" to beryllium and an unknown / unspecified isotope of thorium in a container with surrounding series of "coils and heavy magnets."
Coils and magnets are definitely representing "identifiable electronics", but which is of concern here is an "oddly arranged group of Electrodes", - in other words; it is not the technology that is unusual, but the design, arrangement and combination thereof.

And the description of the arrangement of the coils, magnets and spherical electronics sounds suspiciously like Hans Colers "coils" and Schapellers devices.

The document points, in other words, not in the direction of alien technology, but exotic, man-made technology - and further - a unique German technology.

Point 10 is however the most interesting here. Remember that this document was published in a publication by Drs. Robert and Ryan Wood in 1998. Why is this significant? Because the technological description of this' neutronic power plant "sounds suspiciously like" the Nazi bell "that used a mysterious" fuel "code-named" IRR Xerum 525 ". This consisted, among other things, of thorium and beryllium oxides in addition to other radioactive materials, which was electromagnetic and mechanical counter-rotated (american intelligence looking for clues concerning the German nuclear weapon program found stocks of thorium in massive quantities when they entered Germany at the end of the war - no one, today, can explain why the Germans were obsessed of thorium).

Illustration: The Bell (Die Glocke)

The timing of the publication of the "White Hot Intelligence Estimate" and its associated documents in 1998, is significant, because at that time no publication concerning "the Nazi bell" did exist. The only thing that existed was Igor Witkowskis (relatively obscure) early articles in Polish language! In other words, it seems as if "someone" had an extraordinary degree of "inside knowledge" based on completely different sources.

It would take too long to go into detail about The Bell here (I'll save that for later posts), but two of those involved in the project was Dr. Walter Gerlach, Nobel Prize winner for his work on spin-polarization in magnetic fields, and specializes in gravitational physics (and other more obscure topics, such as "fluorescence of mercury ions in a strong magnetic field", ie. behavior of a "mercuric plasma") and Dr. Kurt Debus, electrical engineer with expertise in high voltage and "separation of magnetic fields" according to Witkowski - and it is from several sources claimed that the Bell project had - at least as one of its goals - to investigate aspects concerning gravity, and potentially develop field propulsion – or anti-gravity - as a result of this.

UFOs and G-forces, - and the 1947 flying saucer-wave again:

Regarding G-forces:

How can people (with known technology) survive the extraordinary acceleration and abrupt maneuvers UFOs often been observed to exercise - which in some cases suggest at least 100 times the G-forces? Most people begin to lose consciousness when approaching 10 to 12 G. ..

This is often mentioned as a "proof" that UFOs must be extraterrestrial, which I disagree on. One accepts that aliens are able to solve the problem of G-forces, but consider it impossible for us?
Besides, it can just as well be remote controlled, unmanned crafts that carries out the "worst" maneuvers?

My main point is that UFOs in 1947, according to the majority of the testimonys as they are reproduced in books that deal with the 47-wave, generally did not perform maneuvers that suggest that such forces were involved.

Claims of great maneuverability came later.

Maybe it's due to:

1: Escalation in the eagerness to describe UFOs incredible maneuverability from 1947 to the present.
2: A technological evolution.

Probably a combination, but I think option 2 is most likely.

During the wave of 1947, UFOs did not perform these fantastic maneuvers. It was reported amazing maneuverability compared to contemporary aircraft technology, but not so exotic that it must represent something extraterrestrial.

ET was obviously not in the mind of the general Schulgen, nor mentioned in any of the earliest documents concerning UFOs by the U.S. Air Force - this came later.

Schulgens memorandum, however, is full of references to German technology and research conducted in Germany during the war and in the years ahead of the war.

http://squib.homestead.com/schulgen.pdf

This tells me that what was observed in 1947, "looked all too familiar" two years after the war ended.

This is especially due to Nazi research on the boundary layer, as well as research on aircrafts with circular design.

Take a look at the document from 1936 I linked to in a previous post; - Wilhelm Kinner: "On wings with circular design" ("Über tragflügel mit kreisförmigen grundriss").

But what about sightings of aliens, some will surely object?

Regarding close encounters, meetings with aliens etc. I think it's important to keep in mind that most UFO sightings do not include observation of pilots / crew.

And in those cases when they are reported to not look like us, the "gray-aliens" and so on, it is important to check the source - reports can be manipulated, a manifestation of disinfo, etc.?

Ps! I do not reject the idea of ​​extraterrestrial life -, and I am not dismissive of that we may have had extraterrestrial visits once or several times in our history. Nevertheless, there are a number of facts that place the roots of the modern UFO phenomenon, that emerged in 1947, to Germany.

Hessdalen/Drivdalen UFO-video; proof of solid object?

Forty minutes long recording of UFOs taken in Drivdalen, Norway, a few miles south-west of Hessdalen.

The recording was made 18 January 2001.

To begin with, it is one light. Eventually, two lights - and at the end, we see three lights in a triangle formation.

The most remarkable aspect of the recording, however, is when the light dims, and we apparently can see what is under the luminous surface.

In the beginning we see a bright, color-changing ball:

Later, the "ball" seems to "open" up.

Eventually, the light turns off, and we are able to see that it is a solid object behind the luminous surface.

Let's recap what PhD. astrophysicist MassimoTeodorani have said in this connection:

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"A fundamental result which was ascertained directly on the field during two intensive
scientific missions, is just that the Hessdalen phenomenology is characterized by two well-
distinguished aspects:

1: luminous orbs for which an external plasma appearance has been ascertained, but with highly anomalous characteristics both thermodynamically and morphologically,

2: a slender but significant minority of objects which possess sharp characteristics of solidity.

This double way in which the learnt phenomenology appears can be interpreted only in two alternative ways:

·       like an overlap of two phenomena with sharply different characteristics,

or

·       like two sharply different behaviours of the same phenomenon.

Anyway it must be reminded that, by assuming that the second option is taken into account, well-known laws of radiation physics say very clearly that the instrumental verification of the plasma nature of a given phenomenon, is not sufficient to demonstrate that the phenomenon is a plasma entirely, but only that his external surface (or: photosphere) behaves like a plasma which, by its
nature, is able to hide all what exists inside it."

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We can’t see what’s inside a plasma, in the same way as we can’t see what’s inside the sun…

Does this footage represent what's inside a Hessdalen "plasma" ball?

I have been in contact with the head of Project Hessdalen, Erling Strand, at the Østfold university college regarding the recording, and asked for his opinion. He pointed out that we do not know in which hdirection of the sky this was filmed, and that we therefore cann't exclude the possibility that the luminous object at times may have been behind trees or the like. Strand does not exclude, in other words, that the portions of the recording where the light looks like an object, are due to that the light is partially hidden behind a tree.

For this reason, the footage can't prove anything, but in my opinion - and probably anyone who studies it, - it is reasonably unlikely that we are looking at a light (planet?) that periodically moves behind trees here.

Strand emphasizes that the recording is extremely interesting.

Hessdalen automatic station, and a black "stick":

Today's post might help to show some of the wide range in what has been seen and still is being seen, in Hessdalen. This sighting was done 23 December, 2002.

From Project Hessdalens web page:

Date: 12/23/2002 Time: 5:07 P.M. Place: Vårhus in Hessdalen
Witness: Bjarne and Bjorn Lillevold.

Bjørn and Bjarne were working with a car out on the yard at home. They suddenly became aware of a big black vertical "stick", just above the automatic station. The lower part of the "stick" did make a blue-green flash now and then. It could go minutes between each flash. It moved slowly towards south, in direction Rognsåsjøen. It disappeared behind the mountain 15 minutes later. Ref. Bjarne Lillevold. Illustration.

"The blue box" is the "brain" of Project Hessdalen, and the automatic measurement station. Here are the computers that perform various measurements located, and all the cameras and antennas are mounted here. Apparently, the UFO phenomenon, whether it is man-made or extra terrestrial, makes its own research and measurements “in return”...?

Have a look at the observation reports located on the ProjectHessdalen website.

Sound phenomena as well in Hessdalen; evidence of underground (military) base?

Taken from Haviks book (the UFO phenomenon, 1987):

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"Early in the period after 1981, a few people at Øyungen heard sounds which resembled a train passing through a tunnel just below where they stood. Apparently, a "train" passed by from one end to the other, underground where they were. They got scared, and went home.

Later, it is mainly “thunder-like" sounds which have been heard. Today, no explanation is found for these sounds.

On 6. September 1984, two people heard deep roars at 09.18, 15.25 and 15.33. They came from the north-east.

On 7. September the same year, double “explosion-like" sounds were heard on the west side of mount Romundhaugen at 19.55. Later sounds were heard around Romundhaugen, as if the roar moved around the mountain.

If these sound phenomena in any way are related to the light phenomena, they will possibly have some connection with geological 'activity', and then both lights and sound phenomena should be a natural part of this. One has not been able to prove anything in favor of this theory yet."

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My mind goes inevitable to what I've read about regarding deep, underground military bases (dumbs), and underground tunnel systems in both the United States and Europe - as in a military context can be traced back to Nazi Germany and the vast underground complexes which was built in Germany during ww2.
Are there similar underground facilities in the Hessdalen area?